Michal Ždanský Chaka chatha, malipoti adayamba kufalikira kuti Apple ikukonzekera kusintha makompyuta ake kuchoka ku X86 kupita ku zomangamanga za ARM. Ambiri adagwira lingalirolo ndipo adayamba kuliwona ngati njira yoyenera. Lingaliro la Mac yokhala ndi purosesa ya ARM idandipangitsa kuti ndiyang'ane maso. Pomaliza ndikofunikira kutsutsa zamkhutu izi ndi mfundo zenizeni.
Pali zifukwa zitatu zogwiritsira ntchito ARM:
- Kuzizira kopanda
- Kuchepetsa kudya
- Kuwongolera kupanga chip
Tizitenga mwadongosolo. Kuziziritsa kwapang'onopang'ono kungakhale chinthu chabwino. Ingoyambitsani kanema wonyezimira pa MacBook ndipo laputopu idzayambitsa konsati yomwe sinachitikepo, makamaka Air imakhala ndi mafani aphokoso kwambiri. Apple imathetsa vutoli pang'ono. Kwa MacBook Pro yokhala ndi Retina, adagwiritsa ntchito mafani awiri asymmetric omwe amachepetsa phokoso ndi kutalika kwa tsamba. Ndizosiyana kwambiri ndi kuzizira kwa iPad, koma kumbali ina, si vuto lalikulu kotero kuti kungakhale kofunikira kulithetsa mwa kusintha kwa ARM. Matekinoloje ena akupangidwanso, monga kuchepetsa phokoso pogwiritsa ntchito mafunde obwerera kumbuyo.
Mwina mkangano wamphamvu kwambiri ndikugwiritsa ntchito mphamvu zochepa, ergo moyo wabwino wa batri. Mpaka pano, Apple idapereka maola opitilira 7 kwa MacBooks, zomwe zidawapangitsa kukhala olimba kwambiri pampikisano, kumbali ina, kupirira kwa maora khumi kwa iPad kunali kokongola kwambiri. Koma zonse zidasintha ndi m'badwo wa Haswell processors ndi OS X Mavericks. MacBook Airs Apano apereka kupirira kwenikweni kwa maola pafupifupi 12, akadali pa OS X 10.8, pomwe Mavericks ayenera kubweretsa ndalama zochulukirapo. Iwo omwe ayesa beta akuti moyo wawo wa batri wakula mpaka maola awiri. Chifukwa chake, ngati 13 ″ MacBook Air ikhoza kukhala maola 14 pansi pa katundu wabwinobwino popanda vuto lililonse, ingakhale yokwanira pafupifupi masiku awiri ogwira ntchito. Ndiye kodi ARM yopanda mphamvu ingakhale yotani ngati itataya zabwino zomwe inali nazo pa tchipisi ta Intel?
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Mtsutso wachitatu umanena kuti Apple idzakhala ndi mphamvu pakupanga chip. Anayesa ulendowu m'zaka za m'ma 90, ndipo monga tonse tikudziwira, zidachitika moyipa. Pakadali pano, kampaniyo imapanga ma chipsets ake a ARM, ngakhale gulu lachitatu (makamaka Samsung pakadali pano) limawapangira. Kwa Macs, Apple imadalira zopereka za Intel ndipo ilibe mwayi kuposa opanga ena, kupatula kuti mapurosesa aposachedwa amapezeka kwa omwe akupikisana nawo.
Koma Apple ili kale masitepe angapo patsogolo. Ndalama zake zazikulu sizimachokera ku malonda a MacBooks ndi iMacs, koma kuchokera ku iPhones ndi iPads. Ngakhale ndi yopindulitsa kwambiri pakati pa opanga makompyuta, gawo la desktop ndi notebook likupumira mokomera zida zam'manja. Chifukwa chowongolera kwambiri mapurosesa, kuyesayesa kosintha kamangidwe sikungakhale koyenera.
Komabe, zomwe ambiri amanyalanyaza ndi mavuto omwe angatsatidwe ndi kusintha kwa kamangidwe. Apple yasintha kale zomangamanga kawiri mzaka zapitazi za 20 (Motorola> PowerPC ndi PowerPC> Intel) ndipo ndithudi sizinali zovuta komanso zotsutsana. Kuti apeze mwayi pamachitidwe omwe tchipisi cha Intel adapereka, opanga adayenera kulembanso mapulogalamu awo kuchokera pansi, ndipo OS X idayenera kuphatikiza womasulira wa Rosetta binary kuti agwirizane kumbuyo. Kuyika OS X kupita ku ARM kungakhale kovuta mwa iko kokha (ngakhale Apple yakwaniritsa kale zina mwa izi ndi chitukuko cha iOS), ndipo lingaliro la opanga onse kuti alembenso mapulogalamu awo kuti agwiritse ntchito ARM yopanda mphamvu ndilowopsa.
Microsoft idayesanso kusuntha komweko ndi Windows RT. Ndipo anachita bwanji? Pali chidwi chochepa mu RT, onse kuchokera kwa makasitomala, opanga ma hardware, ndi opanga. Chitsanzo chabwino cha chifukwa chake makina apakompyuta sakhala a ARM. Mtsutso wina wotsutsa ndi Mac Pro yatsopano. Kodi mungayerekeze Apple ikupezanso magwiridwe antchito pamapangidwe a ARM? Ndipo komabe, pangakhale chifukwa chabwino chotani choyika tchipisi ta ARM m'ma desktops pomwe zabwino zonse zamamangidwe zimangomveka m'ma laputopu?
Komabe, Apple yagawanitsa momveka bwino: Makompyuta apakompyuta ndi ma laputopu ali ndi makina ogwiritsira ntchito pakompyuta potengera kapangidwe ka x86, pomwe zida zam'manja zili ndi makina ogwiritsira ntchito mafoni ozikidwa pa ARM. Monga mbiri yaposachedwa yawonetsa, kupeza kusagwirizana pakati pa maiko awiriwa sikupambana (Microsoft Surface). Chifukwa chake, tiyeni tiyike kamodzi lingaliro loti Apple isintha kuchoka ku Intel kupita ku ARM posachedwa.
Nkhani yabwino kwambiri, ndili ndi lingaliro lomwelo. Monga mwini Air pakati pa 2013 wokhala ndi maola 12,5 pa 10.8 sindikuwona chifukwa chosinthira zomangamanga ngati izi zikugwira ntchito. :)
Ndikudabwa kuti zitenga nthawi yayitali bwanji ndi Mavericks :-)
nkhaniyi ndiyabwino kwambiri kuphatikiza zifukwa zomveka…. pitilizani ntchito yabwino ndi zolemba zambiri ngati izi! :-)
Ndili ndi Air 2011 ndi phokoso? Pepani? Kodi mudamvapo za Tamchung ndi zotsalira za Vietnamese? Awa ndi ndege zoyambitsira zolimbana ndi kuzizira kwambiri kwa Air komwe kuli SUPER SILENT!!
Ndikuganiza kuti Air ndi chinthu chokhacho chomwe chimamveka kuchokera ku Apple. Ena ndi okwera mtengo kwambiri. Mpweya ndi wangwiro pakuchita komanso kupanga.
Mfundo yakuti munthu alibe kanthu sizikutanthauza kuti ndi snobbery overpriced amene alibe china chilichonse ndalama. Ndinali ndi Mpweya ndipo tsopano ndili ndi Retina ndipo ndinganene kuti Retina ndi kuphatikiza kwapamwamba kwambiri kwa Pro ndi Air ndipo inde ndiyokwera mtengo koma sindingaganizire kuti ndi yokwera mtengo kwambiri chifukwa Mpweya ukhoza kuwoneka ngati. snobbery yamtengo wapatali kwa gulu lina la ogwiritsa ntchito laputopu nthawi zonse. Komabe, ziyenera kuzindikirika kuti Mpweya ndiwopanda phokoso kuposa MacBook Pro Retina pazifukwa zakuthupi komanso kapangidwe. Monga ndidanenera, ndinali ndi Mpweya ndipo ndimamva zimakupiza pafupipafupi nthawi zosachepera 2-5 patsiku, ndi MBPR sindimamvanso mafani (tsopano 2) ndipo makamaka chifukwa laputopu yonse imazizira bwino liwiro lomwelo la mafani ndi njira yofanana ndi mtundu wa ntchito kuposa momwe zinalili pa Air. Ngati sindikulakwitsa, dzina lanu lodziwika ndilodziwika kwa ine, kotero ndemanga yanga ingakhale yotsutsana kwathunthu, koma ndinangoyenera kulembanso;)
Inu, bwana, mukukwiyitsidwa kuti mudagula retina yomwe ndi yokhuthala ndipo, kuwonjezera apo, mtundu watsopano watulutsidwa, kotero kuti retina yanu ili ndi mtengo wotsika 60%. Koma zingandikwiyitsenso. Mpweya ndi njira yolondola - koma munthu wamakhalidwe, wanzeru komanso wodziwa akhoza kuvomereza kuti atagula retina.
Sindikudziwa zomwe zimakupiza pa Air, chifukwa ndikugwiritsa ntchito WIN7 ndipo mwina adzakhala GALU wokwiriridwa.
Zonenepa? Chabwino, siwokhuthala kwenikweni, komanso ndi ochepa kwambiri malinga ndi dera lomwe limatenga. Sindikunena kuti Air si njira yopitira. Inde, ndi makina abwino kwambiri ogwiritsira ntchito mafoni apamwamba kwambiri, koma ndimakonda mawonekedwe a retina kwambiri (Mpweya ulibe ndipo mwina sangakhale nawo kwakanthawi) ndipo ngati pali aliyense pano amene sakudziwa. nkhaniyo, ndi inu... M'malo mwake, chifukwa chiyani mumakhala ndi Mpweya pomwe mukuyendetsa pa Windows :D??
Ndinalinso ndi Mpweya ndipo tsopano ndili ndi retina ndipo sindikanasintha. Sindikunena kuti Mpweya ndi woipa, sichoncho, ndi mphamvu, koma mukhoza kuyembekezera machitidwe osiyanasiyana kuchokera ku retina.
Mac iliyonse ili ndi china chake ndipo ili ndi kasitomala wake.
Komanso za makulidwe a Horst, Retina MBP ndi makulidwe ofanana ndi Mpweya pamalo okhuthala kwambiri mwachitsanzo pa hinge.
Ndiyang'ana yonenepa kuno ku Gottwaldov - tili ndi sitolo yopusa epl pano ...
Monga ndikunena - chisinthiko ndi Air, classic ndi retina.
Retina mwina sichikhala chapamwamba kwambiri pano, chifukwa sichinakhalepo pamsika kwa chaka chimodzi ...
Ndidatsitsa OFFICE ORIGINAL WIN OFFICE pa mac os, kenako ndikutsegula Excel yanga momwemo ndipo taonani - idagwa kwathunthu. Sindithana ndi vuto ngati Comrade Jobs kapena Comrade Gates ndi amene ali ndi mlandu, ndikufunika kugwira ntchito ku Excel.
Mac OS ndi yoyipa - sindikufuna kukhala wosiyana zivute zitani. Ndikhulupirireni, ngati kupambana kwapita ku iPhone yanga, ndili nayo kale.
Ndikufuna mapangidwe apamwamba, apamwamba a HW ndi SW apamwamba pa moyo wanga, chifukwa chake kuphatikiza.
POST IYI SIKUYANG'ANA NDI APPLE, IKUNGOFOTOKOZA ZOWONA (ndicho chifukwa chake Kubín NTHAWI ZONSE amazichotsa, chifukwa amangofuna apulo apulosi ndipo ndikukhulupirira kuti zoyipa zake zimawumbidwa ngati apulo wolumidwa ...)
Ndiwe munthu wodekha, palibenso china choti mulembe za izi :D btw kapangidwe kapamwamba kazinthu za MSFT ndi chiyani? Ngati mukufuna mapangidwe apamwamba ndi SW, muyenera kugwiritsa ntchito OSX, iOS ndi Apple mankhwala, ali ndi mapangidwe apamwamba ndi SW. Komabe, palibe chifukwa chochitira ndi munthu yemwe ali ndi malingaliro ochepa;) zikomo chifukwa cha zosangalatsa.
Khosomolani Bambo Doubek... Munthu ameneyu ndi wochepa...
Ndipo ife tiri apo. Anthu ngati inu amangogula galimoto ya 3 mega komanso ya dizilo (mpweya wokhala ndi osx). Sadandaula kuti ndi aulesi komanso kuti sasunga chilichonse ngakhale ataba dizilo. Ndili ndi Jaguar mu petulo ndipo ndili ndi akavalo pafupifupi 400 ndimayendetsa ndalama zomwezo monga Škoda wosachita dizilo. Munthu ayenera kuganiza osati kuchititsidwa khungu ndi Comrade Jobs. Koma a Czech, dziko lolemera, amagula zinyalala chifukwa mnansi ananena kuti tdi octave ndi yabwino. Simukumvetsa nkhani yake abwana nanga ngati Excel ikudyetseni osapita ku axis mupita kufosholo?????
Mulungu dzukani!!!
Ndili ndi galimoto yokhala ndi petulo ;), ndimagwiritsa ntchito OSX, iWork (kupatula manambala) ndi mtundu wa Mac wa MS Office, womwe ndimagwiritsa ntchito Excel kwambiri, womwe umandigwirira ntchito bwino, ndagwirapo ntchito motere m'mbuyomu. kampani yomwe enawo anali ndi Windows okha ndipo ine ndinali ndi Mac yokha, komabe idagwira ntchito limodzi ndi anzanga popanda vuto lililonse. Sindikudziwa vuto lomwe mudali nalo ndi Excel, koma limandigwirira ntchito bwino, monga phukusi lonse la Office, lomwe sindimagwiritsa ntchito tsiku lililonse. Malingaliro anga, simunayesepo kugwiritsa ntchito OSX kwa mwezi wopitilira 1 ndipo mukusiya nzeru. Yemwe uyenera kudzuka ndi iwe!
1. Zogulitsa za Apple sizitaya mtengo wake mwachangu (monga zomwe zili ndi Windows), ndiye kuti mtengo wa 60% ndiwongowononga.
2. Apple sinatulutsenso mtundu watsopano wa Pro, kotero kuti zonenazo ndizachabechabe
3. Ndibwino kukhala ndi Windows 7 pa Air Zotsatira za moyo wa batri ndizosangalatsa, pamene zimakhala zochepa panthawi ya mayesero ndi Windows. Ndikumvetsa, ndithudi, kuti umafunikira kuntchito. Kuti ambiri. Koma ambiri amafunanso bwino SW kunyumba ndi chifukwa chake ali ndi Os X ntchito kunyumba ndinasintha kwa Mac makamaka chifukwa cha SW.
4. Kunenepa ndi zachabechabe, koma ena analemba kuti apa. M'malo mwake, Pro yokhala ndi retina ili ndi chimango chaching'ono motero kukula kwake kumakhala kocheperako.
5. Mpweya ndi chipangizo chokongola, koma mwatsoka chimasowa retina ndipo sichikhoza kuchipeza.
6. Ndiyenera kuvomereza ndi Martin kuti faniyo imamvekadi. Ndikagwira ntchito kwa nthawi yayitali, zomwe sizichitika kawirikawiri, chifukwa ndili ndi iMac kunyumba ndipo ndimachita zinthu zambiri pa Macbook. Komanso pazifukwa izi (ndi retina) ndipita ku Pro ndi retina.
Purosesa ya ARM mu mac imamveka kwa ine. Ngakhale pa mac mini. Chifukwa china ndi mtengo. Kale mu zofunika Mac mini kwa 600 USD pali purosesa kuchokera Intel kwa 225 USD.
http://ark.intel.com/products/67355/Intel-Core-i5-3210M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_10-GHz-rPGA
Mac mini yodula ili ndi purosesa ya $378.
http://ark.intel.com/products/64899/Intel-Core-i7-3610QM-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz
Mpweya woyambira wa Macbook uli ndi purosesa ya $342.
http://ark.intel.com/products/75028/Intel-Core-i5-4250U-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-2_60-GHz
Ndipo zikhoza kugulidwa ndi purosesa bwino 454 USD.
http://ark.intel.com/products/75114/Intel-Core-i7-4650U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz
Mtengo wa chipset uyenera kuwonjezeredwa pamtengo wa purosesa, womwe ukhoza kukhala 25-50 USD. Chifukwa chake ingochotsani ma processor a Intel muzinthu izi ndipo Apple imatha kuchepetsa mtengo wa Mac mini ndi 200 USD ndi macbook air ndi 300 USD ndikusungabe ndalama zokwanira kupanga purosesa yake ya Ax.
Ponena za moyo wa batri, yesani kulingalira kuti tsiku lina Apple idzalengeza kuti MacBooks onse adzakhala osachepera maola 24. Ndi purosesa ya ARM ndi chiwonetsero cha IGZO, ndizowona kwathunthu.
Ndipo ponena za kugwiritsa ntchito x86 kapena x64 pama processor a ARM, sikofunikira konse ngati Apple ayamba kugulitsa ngati zatsopano. Zonse ziwiri za iLife ndi iWorks zitha kuperekedwa mwachindunji kwa purosesa ya ARM, ndipo nthawi yomweyo xCode imatha kuloleza kuphatikiza mapulogalamu a OS X pa purosesa ya ARM ndipo nthawi yomweyo imatha kupangitsa kuti mapulogalamuwo awonjezedwe ku AppStore. Ndili ndi zonse zokonzeka.
Chifukwa chake, phindu lalikulu litha kukhala mtengo wotsika, kugwiritsa ntchito mphamvu zochepa komanso moyo wautali wa batri.
Malingaliro anu ndi omveka, koma wina amagwira ntchito mu Aperture kapena Photoshop ngakhale pa MacBook Air, ndipo sindikudziwa ngati purosesa ya ARM ingathe kuchita zimenezo ...
Kumbali ina, ARM MacBooks mwina angakhale ndi ogula awo.
Ayi, purosesayo ndiyofunika kwambiri kwa makasitomala omaliza. Uwu ndiye MTENGO WOGANIDWA WOSANGALALA. Ndipo masitolo alinso ndi malire ake, sichoncho? Ndipo ngakhale masitolo atasiya madola makumi ambiri, amakhalabe ndi malire, sichoncho?
Ndipo ogulitsa Big ali ndi kuchotsera kwa voliyumu, sichoncho?
Ndipo Apple? Idzakhala yoyamba kupeza ma processor a Haswell, kotero ikhoza kukhala yoyamba kuwonetsa Air ndi kupirira kwa 12h. Ndipo sikuti Intel ali ndi mwayi wotere, makamaka mitengo yotsika kwambiri. Ndipo mitengo imeneyo ikuphatikiza kale chitukuko cha Intel mu mabiliyoni a madola, omwe Apple sakuyenera kulipira // chifukwa si kasitomala wamkulu, kotero sichipereka ndalama zambiri zachitukuko, ndizofanana ndi Acer, HP, ndi zina zotero.
Chifukwa chake ayi, mitengoyo sinatsitsidwebe.
Chinthu chachikulu pa Mac ndikuti aliyense amene akufuna Windows kuti agwire ntchito (mwamwayi ine sinditero) akhoza kuyiyika.
Ndikugwirizana ndi nkhaniyi. Ndi zamkhutu
Koma ayi. Intel samagulitsa mapurosesa amenewo kuti athetse makasitomala. Sindingathe ngakhale kudzisintha ndekha pa bolodi.
Mtengo wamakasitomala wovomerezeka… chifukwa chakuti samagulitsa sizitanthauza kuti ilibe mtengo "wovomerezeka".
Kodi ndikofunikira kuti Apple isinthiretu ku ARM? Nanga bwanji ngati isinthira kumakina okhawo omwe amayang'ana ogwiritsa ntchito kunyumba ndikusunga makina opangira (makanthawi kwakanthawi) pa Intel? MB Air ndi MacMini pa ARM, MB Retina, Mac Pro pa Intel.
Apple ndi nsanja yake (PowerPC) - kalelo, komabe, Apple sanadzipangire okha mapurosesa. Ngakhale kuti anali mbali ya mgwirizanowu, kwenikweni ankadalira IBM kapena Motorola. Masiku ano ili ndi purosesa yabwino kwambiri ya ARM komanso gulu lachitukuko. Sikulinso kovuta mwaukadaulo kusinthira mapurosesa anu a ARM apano kuti akhale ndi magwiridwe antchito apamwamba (pamtengo wogwiritsa ntchito kwambiri). Ndipo kuti kupanga kwawo kumaperekedwa ndi kampani ina? Izi zikugwira ntchito pafupifupi aliyense (ARM ili pafupi kutha kunja kwa Samsung, AMD (anagulitsa mafakitale awo), ...) kotero sindikanawona vuto pano.
Rosette ndi kuyanjana kwam'mbuyo - pamakina ogwiritsidwa ntchito kunyumba, izi sizofunikira kwenikweni. iLife / iWork ya ARM idzakhala, idzaperekedwa pa Mac AppStore ngati chikhalidwe chophatikizapo kugwiritsa ntchito ndipo idzathetsedwa mu kamphindi. Kupatula apo, mapulogalamu sanalembedwenso mu assembler, kotero kusamutsa mapulogalamu ku purosesa yatsopano ndikosavuta lero kuposa kale.
Gwiritsani ntchito Intel kuti Apple ikhale ndi mwayi wopeza nkhani komanso mitengo yabwinoko ndiyoyeneranso.
Chifukwa chake - ndimaona kusintha kwa ARM kukhala kosakayikitsa, koma ndimaona kuti ndizotsimikizika kuti Apple ikugwira ntchito pazosankha izi za Amalume Příhoda. Ndipo kutayikira koyendetsedwa kuti Intel adziwe za izi ndizothekanso :-)
Peter,
Nkhaniyi ikukamba za kuwongolera kupanga chip, osati kupanga chip.
Madola osungidwa pa tchipisi ta ARM angatengeke ndi kupangidwa munthawi imodzi kwa machitidwe atatu ogwiritsira ntchito (a Intel, ARM ndi iOS). OS X ya ARM ndi zinyalala kwambiri.
Malinga ndikuwona kwanga, kusintha kwa ARM ndikowona, koma osati lero. Masiku ano, tangoyamba kumene kugwirizana pakati pa OS X ndi iOS, zomwe zimachokera pang'onopang'ono kuchokera ku zatsopano za OS X. Ponseponse, x86 ndi yachikale, ngakhale yapamwamba-ntchito zosiyana. Tsoka ilo, kusinthaku pano sikophweka ngati HDD-SSD, koma titha kuyembekezera pang'onopang'ono ARM m'mabuku, m'malingaliro mwanga pafupifupi 2025.
Ndikuchokera m'tsogolo :-D Kotero anali ndi zaka 5 zokha. Zachitika kale mu 2020.