Tomas Chlebek Jon Rubenstein ndi wantchito wakale wa Apple yemwe adakhudzidwa kwambiri ndi chitukuko cha webOS ndi banja lawo lazinthu. Tsopano akuchoka ku Hewlett Packard.
Kodi mwakhala mukukonzekera kuchoka kwa nthawi yayitali, kapena mwaganiza zochoka posachedwa?
Ndakhala ndikukonzekera kuchita izi kwa kanthawi-pamene Hewlett Packard adagula Palm, ndinalonjeza Mark Hurd, Shane V. Robinson, ndi Todd Bradley (atsogoleri a HP, ed.) kuti ndidzakhala pafupifupi miyezi 12 mpaka 24. Kutatsala pang'ono kukhazikitsidwa kwa TouchPad, ndidauza Todd kuti piritsi litakhazikitsidwa ikhala nthawi yoti ndipitirize. Todd adandifunsa kuti ndipitirizebe ndikuwathandiza kutembenuka kwa webOS, osadziwa panthawiyo kuti Personal Systems Division (PSG) ikukoka kutembenuka. Ndimakonda Todd kotero ndidamuuza kuti ndikhala ndikumupatsa malangizo ndi chithandizo. Koma tsopano zonse zathetsedwa ndipo tapeza zomwe zikuchitika ndi chirichonse ndi aliyense - ndachita zomwe ndinanena ndipo ndi nthawi yoti tipitirire.
Kodi iyi inali dongosolo lanu kuyambira pachiyambi? Ndikutanthauza kuchoka kwanu?
Inde. Izi nthawi zonse zinali gawo la dongosolo. Angadziwe ndani? Simungathe kulosera zam'tsogolo. Koma zokambirana zomwe ndidakhala nazo ndi Todd, ndikutulutsa TouchPad, webOS pa TouchPad kenako ndikuchoka kwakanthawi, tiwona zomwe zikuchitika. Sizinali zotsimikizika kapena zolimba, koma Todd sanasamale.
Koma kodi sikuli kwanzeru kuti mungakhalebe zinthu zitayenda bwino?
Zongopeka chabe, sindikudziwa. Nditauza Todd kuti sindikufuna kupitilirabe kukhazikitsidwa kwa TouchPad, palibe amene adadziwa ngati zikhala bwino kapena ayi. Kusankha kwanga kunatsogolera. Ndicho chifukwa chake kusintha kwa Stephen DeWitt kunali kofulumira. Tinakambirana kwa miyezi ingapo. Izi zidasankhidwa TouchPad isanatulutsidwe.
Panali zinthu zomwe sizinayende momwe aliyense amayembekezera - mungakambirane zomwe zidayambitsa mavutowa?
Sindikuganiza kuti izi ndizofunikira tsopano. Ndi nkhani yakale tsopano.
Simukufuna kulankhula za Leo? (Leo Apotheker, wamkulu wakale wa HP, zolemba za mkonzi)
Ayi. Mu webOS, tapanga dongosolo lodabwitsa. Iye ndi wokhwima kwambiri, iye ndi kumene zinthu zikupita. Koma titachoka panjira ndikukafika ku HP ndipo kampaniyo sinali bwino kuti ithandizire kuyesetsa kwathu. Ndinali ndi mabwana anayi! Mark adatigula, Cathe Lesjak adatenga udindo wa CEO wanthawi yayitali, ndiye Leo adabwera ndipo tsopano Meg.
Ndipo sipanapite nthawi yaitali kuchokera pamene anakugulani!
Ndinawagwirira ntchito kwa miyezi 19.
Ndiye chotsatira paipi? Mwina mutenga nthawi yopuma.
Si zomwe ndimafuna, ndi zomwe ndimachita.
Kodi mukupita ku Mexico?
Ndipamene mukundiitana pompano.
Kodi mukumwa margarita pamene tikulankhula?
Ayi, kwatsala pang'ono kupeza margarita. Ndangomaliza kumene. Ndipita kokasambira, ndikadye chakudya chamasana pang'ono…
Koma ndinu munthu wopanga, wofuna kutchuka - kodi mubwereranso mumasewerawa?
Kumene! Sindikupuma pantchito kapena china chonga icho. Sindinathe kwenikweni. Ndipumula kwakanthawi, ndisankha modekha zomwe ndikufuna kuchita - ndikutanthauza, izi zinali zaka zinayi ndi theka. Zomwe takwanitsa zaka zinayi ndi theka zakhala zodabwitsa. Ndipo sindikuganiza kuti anthu amamvetsetsa kuti - zomwe tidapeza panthawiyo - zinali zabwino. Mukudziwa kuti webOS idayamba miyezi isanu ndi umodzi isanafike ku Palm. Iwo anali atangoyamba kumene. Sizinali zomwe webOS ili lero. Icho chinali chinachakenso. Tidapanga izi pakapita nthawi, koma inali ntchito yayikulu kwa anthu ambiri pazaka zambiri. Kotero zaka zinayi ndi theka…Ine ndikuti ndipume kaye.
Dikirani, kodi ndamva webOS ikumveka kumbuyo tsopano?
Eya, ndangolandira uthenga.
Ndiye mukugwiritsabe ntchito chipangizo cha webOS?
Ndimagwiritsa ntchito Veer yanga!
Mukugwiritsabe ntchito Veer yanu!?
Eya - ndimauza aliyense zimenezo.
Mukudziwa, pali zinthu zambiri zomwe mwachita zomwe ndikuganiza kuti ndizabwino, koma sindikumvetsetsa chikondi chanu pamafoni ang'onoang'ono awa. Nchifukwa chiyani mumakonda kwambiri Veer?
Inu ndi ine tili ndi machitidwe osiyanasiyana. Ndili ndi Veer ndi TouchPad ndi ine. Ngati ndikufuna kugwira ntchito ndi maimelo akuluakulu ndikusakatula pa intaneti, ndimakonda chida chokhala ndi chotchinga chofanana ndi TouchPad. Koma ndikangoyimba ndikulemba mauthenga achidule, Veer ndiwabwino ndipo satenga malo aliwonse mthumba mwanga. Inu basi "tech guys", nthawi iliyonse ndikatulutsa izi mthumba mwanga anthu amati "Ichi ndi chiyani!?".
Ndiye ndife omwe tili ndi mavuto?
[kuseka] Onani, chinthu chimodzi sichimaphimba chilichonse. Ichi ndichifukwa chake muli ndi Priuses ndi Hummers.
Kodi mupitiliza kugwiritsa ntchito zida za webOS? Kodi simugula iPhone kapena Windows Phone?
Inu mundiuze ine zimenezo. IPhone 5 ikatuluka, idzandipatsa chiyani? Mwachiwonekere pamene teknoloji ikukula ndiyenera kupeza china chatsopano. Nthawi imeneyo ikadzafika, ndidzasankha zimene ndidzagwiritse ntchito.
Mukabwerera kuntchito, mukuganiza kuti idzakhalanso malo awa? Kapena mwatopa ndikugwira ntchito kudziko lamafoni?
Ayi ayi, ndikuganiza kuti mafoni ndi tsogolo. Ndithudi padzakhala chinthu china chimene chidzadza pambuyo pawo, padzakhala funde lina. Kutha kukhala kuphatikiza kunyumba, koma zida zam'manja zipitiliza kukhala zofunika kwambiri. Koma sindikudziwa choti ndichite kenako. Sindinatenge mphindi imodzi kuganizira za izi.
Kodi simupita kukathandiza RIM?
Uhh [kupuma kwa nthawi yayitali] mukudziwa, Canada ndiye njira yolakwika kwa ine, bwenzi langa. Kukuzizira kumeneko [kuseka]. Ndinapita ku koleji ku New York ndipo patatha zaka zisanu ndi chimodzi ndi theka kumpoto kwa New York ...
Zowona, sakuwoneka ngati malo abwino omwe mungafune.
Zimatikumbutsa zomwe zidachitika mu kanemayo komanso gulu la Jamaican bobsled…
Kuthamanga Kozizira?
Inde, akatsika ndege ndipo sanawonepo chipale chofewa.
Ndinudi m'gulu limenelo.
Ndendende.
Kodi mukumva bwanji za webOS kupita kotsegula?
Tidali kale panjira yopita ku Enyu gwero lotseguka (mawonekedwe a javascript okhudzana ndi mafoni ndi intaneti, zolemba za mkonzi) ngati nsanja yotukula. Izo zinali zitakonzedwa kale, kotero ine ndikuganiza icho ndi chinthu chabwino.
Kotero inu mwachiwonekere ndinu okondwa kuti sanafe.
Kumene. Ndinaika magazi, thukuta ndi misozi mu chinthu ichi. Ndipo taonani, ndikuganiza kuti inali ndi kuthekera kochuluka, ngati anthu angoyesetsa kuchitapo kanthu, ndikuganiza kuti muwona kuchira kwa malowa pakapita nthawi.
Kodi mukuganiza kuti padzakhala zida zatsopano za webOS?
Inde. Sindikudziwa kuchokera kwa ndani, koma motsimikiza. Pali makampani ambiri omwe amafunikira makina ogwiritsira ntchito okha.
Ndani ndani:
Jon Rubinstein - adagwira ntchito ndi Steve Jobs kale m'masiku oyambirira a Apple ndi NEXT, adakhudzidwa kwambiri pakupanga iPod; mu 2006, adasiya udindo wa wachiwiri kwa purezidenti wa gulu la iPod ndikukhala wapampando wa board ku Palm, kenako CEO.
R. Todd Bradley - Wachiwiri kwa Purezidenti wa Hewlett-Packard's Personal Systems Group
Izi zidamasuliridwa ndi womasulira wa Google, sichoncho? :D
Kwa kanthawi, ndimadabwa ngati munthuyo ndi wovuta kwambiri ndipo nthawi zonse amapita patsogolo pang'onopang'ono kapena ngati kumasulira kuli kosavuta ... Apo ayi, chabwino, zikomo chifukwa cha nkhaniyi!
Ndani anamasulira????
Mwa njira… alipo mwa inu amene adawerengapo zoyankhulana zoyambilira? Malinga ndi ndemanga zambiri, palibe.